Friday, November 19, 2010

I work with an extreme Dem/Lib who thinks she knows everything, please help.?

I work with a Dem/Lib who thinks she knows everything about everything, whom I will call Cathy. Cathy is a Dem/Lib to the extreme, she is a nice lady but very opinionated about politics and religion. No matter what anyone (us co-workers) are discussing (world events, religion, politics, or practicaly anything else), she stands up, starts in with her diatribe and does not let anyone else speak. When I confronted her about this, she said she was ';through'; with the conversation. I did not relent and kept asking her why our opinions did not matter when she ';preached to us'; on a daily basis, acting like she was the know-all, end-all of all knowledge. She then listed a myriad of magazines, news papers, periodicals and books she says she reads on a daily basis from where she gets this ';knowledge';. Also, she is an athiest, but claims to know about all of the world's religions and looks down on those of us who are ';religious';. How can me and my coworkers get along with this person? HelpI work with an extreme Dem/Lib who thinks she knows everything, please help.?
Hey ol buddy!

Good to see you ask another question. Now lets see if I can answer it for you.

OK the problem with die hard libs/atheists is that they don't listen. They don't think for themselves, and they will NEVER understand how logic works. So it is impossible trying to reason with them, talk to them, or help them in any way shape or form. All we thinking people can do is accept these facts and learn to live with these poor misguided souls.

The best thing I have been able to come up with yet is for our group to stop talking when ';the lib'; interrupts and all look at them as one of us say.. ';Well thank you Cathy, that opinion (we say ';that opinion'; cause it is not actually her opinion but as usual just regurgitated diatribe that she gets from her selected sources) is very appreciated and we will be happy to give it the due respect it deserves.';

Then we all sit there looking at her/him with a blank look on our faces, and wait till they get the hint and leave. Then we continue with our conversation or debate.

They will undoubtedly try to continue, but we never respond. We just sit there and wait for them to finish their spiel and then the next one of in line repeats the same line. ';Well thank you Cathy, that opinion is very appreciated and we will be happy to give it the due respect it deserves.';

Sooner or later she will get the hint and either learn to JOIN the conversation or will finally get tired of looking like a complete idiot and just leave you guys alone all together.

The one thing you can NOT do is respond to their idiotic statements. We all know they are stupid and in no way backed by facts, although they will try and insinuate that they are. We can NOT give them any gas for their fire. We have to just let them go about.

The way I always see it is... If you get into a wrestling match with a pig, you both get muddy, but the pig enjoys it. And if you argue logic with a statue does that make you dumber or the statue smarter?

Well I hope this helps. And it's good to see you on again.

Talk to you later.I work with an extreme Dem/Lib who thinks she knows everything, please help.?
I think you need to go and complain to Human Resources about her methods of communication. This is not a personal issue you're having with her. She's making the entire workplace a less nice environment, so HR should have to deal with it and be the ones to ask her to tone it down.
Personally, I would start hanging out somewhere else and completely ignore her if she was impossible to get away from. Eat lunch in another part of the bldg or eat out.



If explaining the anti-social behavior didn't work, try the silent treatment.



And I would prob agree with many of her ideas, but I NEVER talk about atheism unless specifically asked and then listen more than I speak.
She is making the people like me (a liberal and an atheist) look bad.
Unless somebody is forcing you to engage in conversation with her, don't.
Don't try to get along with her.Just avoid her.If it is in a lunch room then find another location for your break.If it is on the job,then speak up to a manager.Debate is great if you are dealing with a person that allows others opinions to come into play.This person will never allow debate or discourse because her mind has been literally brainwashed by false ideologies.
Yuck! I've never met her and I already don't like her.



Seriously, even though politics and religion are the most passionate and interesting things to talk about, it doesn't belong in the work place. Make it a point to have those discussions with your work friends at lunch (out of ear shot of her obviously). If she starts a religious or political rant you all can tell her those subjects are now off limits in the workplace.



Good luck!
Why are you complaining?? God has just sent you a good joke and you don't know how to take it. :-)



Seriously, you've got to have fun with this. Is this lady's name Jessica R?



The picture you're painting is exactly like that of Jessica R from back when I was in college, an opinionated, atheistic fem lib to the extreme.



Ok, what you need to do is make a list of all the people who annoy you and invite them to a restaurant for a small party or something. The catch is, you don't show up. They all annoy each other to death.
Ask her if she truly believes in freedom of speech. Then point out that by her filibustering she is denying others what she so fervently promotes. In short, she has become the very personification of a ';canting hypocrite'; (Charles Dickens description of his character Pecksniff in his book Martin Chuzzlewit.)



You might all start calling her ';Pecksniff';. When she asks why, you can provide her with the reference. If there is one thing a mountebank like this can not stand, it is ridicule, being laughed at. She should get the message, unless she is extraordinarily dim.



You might also point out that freedom means freedom of debate, of exchange of ideas, freedom to disagree, even the freedom to be wrong. It does not mean denying others what you claim to hold dear.



I suspect her real problem, believe it or not, is lack of self confidence. That is why her knowledge is seemingly all second hand. She probably doesn't trust her own intelligence enough to form an opinion of her own. It may be the result of an unhappy childhood with a dominant personality in the household, or worse. It is best that you don't go there, but it may help you to understand why she is the way she is.
I think next time she says something, everyone should just start laughing hysterically and maybe she will get the point.

Good for you for approaching her about it!
Regardless of whether she is dem,lib, conservative,gay, single,married, atheist,mormon these are not the issue.



She is being overbearing and not interested in what anyone else has to say.



'Hot' topics, i.e., religion, politics,sexual preference are better not discussed in a work environment.



She is being patronizing and rude. Ask her to button it and leave you alone.

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